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Photos by [livejournal.com profile] cottonmanifesto. Location: Park bench, Olmsted park, Brookline.

Funnel web spider Agelenopsis naevia

Funnel web spiders are some of the most commonly encountered predators in the urban ecosystem. Their webs are horizontal sheets, which catch insects when they drop from above, or stumble into them. The spider hides in a silken tube at the back of the sheet, waiting to feel the vibrations of the trapped prey. When it happens the spider darts out, delivers a paralyzing bite, and drags the insect back into the tube to be consumed in concealment.

There are dozens of spider species that weave funnel webs, varying by geography, and by where they prefer to spin their webs. Some species are known to prefer indoor spaces, while others tend to choose fields and lawns. Hedges and trees are used, and a variety of man-made structures. Often the spider will incorporate a natural or man-made cavity into the web, spinning their tubes into the pipes of a chain-link fence or the hollows of a tree. A. naevia is a common species in New England, sometimes given the common name "grass spider."

Date: 2006-09-25 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hai-kah-uhk.livejournal.com
I've always loved these lil girls. And I have a bad habit of calling them tunnel spiders instead. I must've picked that up early in life. As a child I named all the funnel spiders that made homes on my porch. The nostalgia value alone makes them one of my all-time favorite critters.

Date: 2006-09-25 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsunami-ryuu.livejournal.com
Nice photos! I wouldn't want to sit on that bench-- it'd ruin his web for one, and you might end up with an unhappy spider on you for antoher.

A number of funnel web spiders call the groundcover juniper on the hill out front home. They're neat little things

Date: 2006-09-25 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roaming.livejournal.com
ah, so THAT'S what's on my back porch light. HUGE mutha.

Date: 2006-09-25 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/purplebunnie_/
*screeches*

*runs away*

Irrational fears FTW.

Date: 2006-09-25 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

Hey,

:puts on Crocodile Dundee Hat:

Mate, that's not a Funnel-Web Spider. This is a Funnel-Web Spider...*g*

Atrax Robustus- The Sydney Funnel-Web, in typical 'Mess-with-me-an'-I-Kill-yous-dead' Pose:

Date: 2006-09-25 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragon-spirit.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was going to mention the difference between the harmless (to humans, anyway) North American funnel/grass spider and the nasty-ass Sydney Funnel-Web.

P.S. I love your icon!!! That's a Cobalt Blue, a Brazilian Wandering Spider, and what's the other one? Is that a bird-eater?

Date: 2006-09-25 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

Hey,

I love Atrax and Hadronyche Funnel-webs. From a respectful distance *g*

Icon- Cobalt Blue, Brazilian Wandering and a Babboon Spider. Here's another one with different web-slingers!

Love your icon too. It's a shame those Happy-Faced Spiders aren't lethally venomous, because that would be nicely ironic *g*

Date: 2006-09-25 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragon-spirit.livejournal.com
Ooh, nice! With a jumper and everything! I <3 salticidae!

It's a shame those Happy-Faced Spiders aren't lethally venomous, because that would be nicely ironic

I know, huh?

It sorta makes me question my own religious philosophies, because this spider is way too funny to not be the product of a smart-assed higher consciousness.

Date: 2006-09-25 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

Salticids are ace. My favourite over here is the Fringed Jumper Portia fimbriata, a bizarrely cryptic little Jumper that feeds exclusively on other spiders- specialising in other jumpers!

Date: 2006-09-25 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urbpan.livejournal.com
You make a good point. I struggled with a common name for this one, because there are a few, and find them either indistinct (grass spider) or cumbersome (funnel weaving grass spider). I used to call them sheet web spiders, but no one else seems to. These days I refer to them as "Agelenas" in a generic sense, when I need to.

I would hate to confuse the (growing numbers!) of Australian readers. As you know, I had to dance around the "daddy long-legs" issue as well. I'm incapable of identifying any harvestmen, so that's probably for the best.

Date: 2006-09-25 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

You say "Funnel-Web" in Australia, and everyone automatically pictures an Atrax robustus... The Funnel-Weaving Grass Spider isn't represented here...prolly because it's not venomous enough to be included in the club *g*

Cellar Spiders, Harvestmen and Crane Flies sharing the name 'Daddy Long-Legs' in common parlance is a pain, but they're not so hard to tell apart. Cellar Spiders look like spiders, Crane Flies look like steroid-chomping versions of mosquitoes, and with their clumped-together heads/abdomens, Harvestmen look like weird crosses between a spider and the Martian War Machines from WAR OF THE WORLDS...

btw- the favoruite food of the harmless Cellar Spider, weirdly enough, is the various and distinctly non-harmless representatives of the Black Widow family (Latrodectus)! The Cellar Spiders mosey right into the Widow's web, go straight to the nest part of the snare and eat the Widow in situ...

Date: 2006-09-25 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urbpan.livejournal.com
btw- the favoruite food of the harmless Cellar Spider, weirdly enough, is the various and distinctly non-harmless representatives of the Black Widow family (Latrodectus)! The Cellar Spiders mosey right into the Widow's web, go straight to the nest part of the snare and eat the Widow in situ...

Ah, in much the same way that the European house spider competes with the dangerous hobo spider, no?

Glad to have such a knowledgeable arachnophile contributing to the discussion!

(Still watching my windowsills for a Phiddipus audax--my favorite--to use in the 365 project! It may never happen :( We did find a nice big Phiddipus with a face on its abdomen, on our trip to Texas.)

Date: 2006-09-25 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

Indeed! Black House Spiders (Badumna robusta) also chow down on Red-Back Spiders like popcorn, and are themselves the favourite prey of another infamous Aussie, the White-Tailed Spider (Lampona cylindrata) which has been implicated in several cases of Necrotising Arachnidism (think a spider-transmitted version of Scalded-Skin Syndrome)

Jumping Spiders are keen. Even hardcore arachnophobes tend to find them tolerable, prolly because the fuzzy face and huge eyes trigger our inate mammalian "nurse the cute baby mammal" response!

Date: 2006-09-25 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairy.livejournal.com
oooo now that's one grumpy looking spider!

Date: 2006-09-25 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

You'd be grumpy too if a scientist shoved a glass tube in your face and vacuumed up your spit evry time you wanted a nice sit down *g*

Date: 2006-09-26 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairy.livejournal.com
LOL...yep, you're right. I'd be pretty grumpy too ;)

Date: 2006-09-25 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwrites.livejournal.com
spiders always make the best use of their environment.

cozy curving metalwork on a park bench? no one else living here. guess i'm home! i'll just throw up a few silk curtains for accent. and dinner...i mean guests :)

Date: 2006-09-25 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

Indeed! Metal objects warmed by the sun but with nice nooks and crannies that the spider can hide in are pretty much almost immediately claimed by Red-Back Widows (the Aussie variant of the Black Widow) over here..

Date: 2006-09-25 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urbpan.livejournal.com
Apparently mailboxes in las vegas (and, I imagine, other places) are attractive to black widows.

Date: 2006-09-25 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

Red-Backs tend to avoid mail-boxes here, as they are also often home to Black-House Spiders, which eat them. Red-Backs are famous for liking to build webs beneath the seat of outhouse toilets, which causes envenomation problems for people (especially men, for obvious anatomical reasons) who need to use them in the night. They also love playground equipment, the corners of garage doors and the space under the capping of asbestos fences...

Date: 2006-09-25 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwrites.livejournal.com
so...austalian park benches are potentially dangerous...good to know. i've always wanted to get over there one day.

puts me in mind of the classic far side cartoon where the ambitious spider has built a web across the bottom of a playground slide. wish i could post it here, but i can't find the image, and gary larson is kind of cranky about that sort of thing.



Date: 2006-09-25 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

Potentially dangerous, yes. Like all Widows, Red-Backs are extremely timid and will drop and play dead/run for it when harrassed rather than get aggressive. They only bite when they feel like they're being squashed. There's also an Antivenom available- no-one in Oz has died of a Red-Back bite since it was brought out.

I remember that one. "If we pull this off, we'll eat like kings!"

Date: 2007-09-04 12:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
not sure if i like the picture of the snake and its meal!

Date: 2006-09-25 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairy.livejournal.com
I was playing around in photoshop with a photo I had taken of a "funnel web" (the American version, hehe) when I saw your post :)

These guys have some of the messiest webs, don't they?

Great post...as always :)

Date: 2006-09-25 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vurumai.livejournal.com
Oi! Watch out. Eees a Nippah

cheese!!!!!!!!

Date: 2008-09-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i like cheese absoulutely loads lol

Funnel-web spider

Date: 2010-04-15 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When I was a kid, I went to a summer camp in Magnolia, Texas. When I was in the woods one day, I saw a huge, thick, white, cottony funnel at the base of a wooden bridge. As I approached it, I saw a fairly large, black, THICK legged spider back into a hole that was easily
1 & 1/2" in diameter. I've tried to look it up on google, but the only thing I can find that ressembles what I saw is the deadly Australian version. Anyone ever hear anything like this?

Re: Funnel-web spider

Date: 2010-10-04 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just saw something similar this weekend in Sam Houston State Park. Also a small snake that I can't seem to identify. Any suggestions?

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Re: Funnel-web spider

Date: 2010-10-04 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Image (http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/lilitha99/?action=view&current=P1050131Small.jpg)


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Re: Funnel-web spider

Date: 2010-11-03 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

Probably a Purse Spider...

Picture of Sydney Funnel-Web spider

Date: 2010-04-15 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can anyone post a picture of a Sydney Funnel-Web spider's web for me?

Re: Picture of Sydney Funnel-Web spider

Date: 2010-11-03 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

They don't build webs, they dig burrows, like trapdoors...

Re: Picture of Sydney Funnel-Web spider

Date: 2011-01-26 12:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi there, I have an ID problem, I took a spider in picture, and I don't really know what is it. As you appear pretty aware about the spider world I was wondering if you could help me?

Re: Picture of Sydney Funnel-Web spider

Date: 2011-01-26 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urbpan.livejournal.com
Sure, I'll give it a shot! Where's the picture?

Re: Picture of Sydney Funnel-Web spider

Date: 2011-01-26 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

Sure thing. Post it up and I'll have a look!

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