urbpan: (with chicken)
urbpan ([personal profile] urbpan) wrote2008-11-06 07:36 pm

On chickens and such

I think since politics are dominating my thoughts these days I have to give up on apologizing about it.  Drop me from your friends list if you must, but I have stuff on my mind and it comes out here.

The victory for chickens in California should not be taken to mean that Californians care more about chickens' rights than human rights.  I'm pretty pissed off about question 8 passing, but I'm happy about animal welfare being taken seriously.  The chickens are still going to be killed and eaten, after all.  The gay married couples have some unneeded stress and irritation coming, but hey, they still live in California.



But seriously, how could you vote to take the happy out of this picture??

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Re: Democracy on Stun Setting

[identity profile] buboniclou.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
No, Chekov was the best man I think.

Clearly, Prop 8 is proof that conservatives are not trekkies.

[identity profile] droserary.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
At least there's now a Democratic majority in the New York State Senate, opening the avenue for gay marriage legislation to be passed (the assembly already passed such legislation and the governor says he will sign it; the senate was holding it back because, I believe, the vote was tied. Picking up two extra seats there will help).

But yeah, I'm pissed about prop 8, too. I'm biased, but I buy the legal argument of the three lawsuits already filed. If a proposition that said interracial marriages were no longer legal passed with more than 50% of the vote, would it be thrown out in the courts for violating the equal protection clause? Of course it would. What's the difference with that hypothetical and this reality? I'd be stunned if they found a way to reason around that logic.

[identity profile] ndozo.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think that hand problem is a result of eating too much stressed-out chicken but Obama's health plan will allow them to get the help they need. They are so brave to laugh in the face of such adversity.

[identity profile] kryptyd.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was sad about prop 8 too, but then someone else commented saying that someday people will look back on it and shake their heads at its barbarism. In my good moods I believe that.

*have a lesbian manga icon*

[identity profile] urbpan.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's my feeling too: someday we're going to look back at this struggle and wonder how the majority could be so prejudiced (kind of like we do now when we contemplate separate drinking fountains for blacks and such). I just wish we could start looking back NOW.

(Anonymous) 2008-11-07 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad animal rights are being taken seriously, too; thank you for mentioning it. Certainly it's not an either/or, and the world needs more kindness and big-heartedness for everyone.

~Flaneuse in DC (no cool icon, sorry)

[identity profile] shellynoir.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
the animal right issue doesn't even take effect until 2015. I think it's easy to vote for change seven years in the future...

all in all though I'm pretty upset about Prop 8.